Slow Chinese Listening: 台灣人最愛的「三師」職業？條碼師是什麼？聊聊工作與遠端生活 | Jobs in Taiwan & WFH
本集提到的「外送師」、「條碼師」等詞彙，主要是引用網路語境中的職業暱稱／戲稱，用來討論現代工作型態、職業印象與社會語言現象，並沒有貶低外送員、門市人員、收銀人員或任何服務業從業者的意思。每一種工作都有其專業與價值，也都值得被尊重。
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嗨,我是Ben。那今天是5月9號的10點57分,禮拜六。那今天來錄一下Podcast。今天要講,剛在洗澡的時候想了一下要講什麼。想說,講一下工作好了。就是,不知道每個國家對工作有沒有什麼特別的印象之類的。
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這樣講好像也不太對
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就是我從小到大好像整到現在
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就是一直會有個觀念是
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如果工作的話儘量要當三師吧
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就是那個三個
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然後師是老師的那個師
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像是醫師
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工程師
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還有什麼
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是老師嗎
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對
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總之就是大家普遍認爲
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還是律師
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有點忘
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就是大家對於師
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師自卑
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都會有一些
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比較
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比較好的想象
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我也不太確定
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但可能一方面是薪資收入吧
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然後還有一些工作的穩定性之類的
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我也不太確定
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一試的話應該就是
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蠻穩定的吧
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就畢竟大家怎麼缺
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然後工程師的話
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好像近年來會有
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被AI取代之類的
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我也不太確定
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我自己是工程師
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是寫軟體的
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雖然
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雖然AI變得厲害
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但我感覺我好像
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沒有很擔心這件事情
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然後
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我也有跟
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身邊的同事
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聊了一下
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問了他們的想法
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我發現有一個人
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回答蠻有意思的
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分享給大家
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就是那個同事說
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只要跑得比
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後面的人快就好
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這個意思就是
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如果浪來的時候
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你跑得越慢
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越容易被捲走
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那那個浪就是
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AI或者一些很厲害的
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新的科技
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那你只要跑得比
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後面那些人還快
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你就不會被AI給捲走
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那就是意思就是說
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不會因爲AI失去工作這樣
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就覺得
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覺得蠻有趣的這個比喻
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蠻喜歡的
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那我自己覺得
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好像不會懂
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就我自己工作上的狀況
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雖然都是AI寫的
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蠻多都是AI寫的
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但還是要取代人類的話
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好像
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可能一兩年內
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自己覺得還有一段時間吧
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不是說不可能
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但還有一段時間
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那回過頭來
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剛聊了一世共產生
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老師好像是因爲鐵飯碗吧
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鐵飯碗就是
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在臺灣人可能老一輩的觀念
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會比較覺得鐵飯碗
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就是工作比較保障
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但到現代來講
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好像不會這麼去看這件事情
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就是好像我看到新聞都會說
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就是老師壓力很大
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或其實工作的時數跟
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他們的薪水其實不成正米
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或者是
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其實我開始在研究一些
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跟教育相關的東西的時候
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就有深刻的體會到
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就是老師雖然是
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在我們看來
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學校老師可能是
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九點到五六點吧
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但他其實要花很多時間
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去備課
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就是準備上課的東西
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那想想
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我覺得這個
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確實是蠻花時間的
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就他可能平常就要
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關心學生啊
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或者是
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上別的課
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上別的班的課
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或者是做很多的
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瑣事
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那想象中
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備課這種事情
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應該會有一段比較長的時間
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會需要去做準備
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那我相信如果比較用心的老師
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感覺到還是會需要一點下班後的時間
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沒有人打擾
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然後去花一點時間去把
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可能或需要上課的內容準備出來
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對那總之就是
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臺灣人好像對於這個詩
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詩字碑
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有一些想象
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那近年來也有一些
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比較有趣的
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不同的私自被出現
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像是外送師
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還有條馬師
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條馬就是那個
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就是在臺灣的話
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去商店購物
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應該說去各國的商店購物
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都會開發票
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都會開發票給
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收據給你
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在臺灣有
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要怎麼講
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就是發票號碼
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然後
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每兩個月還三個月
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就是會抽獎
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會抽那個發票號碼
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然後有蠻多錢
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我記得我小時候
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大概最大的是兩百萬吧
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兩百萬好像是
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多少美金啊
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六七萬美金
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差不多
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然後
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現在好像有一千萬
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就是如果你只要
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號碼有對中的話
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好像全對的樣子
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我沒有中過
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所以我真的不清楚
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如果有一天中獎
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再跟大家分享
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那就是那個發票
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反正後來
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發票這個事情
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又有電子發票
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電子發票後
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又有要推行一些紙本
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就是希望不要浪費紙本
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所以就有個電子載具
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然後
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呃
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店員就會問你要不要刷載具
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就是他會用那個感應的那個
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barcode
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調碼機
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去scan
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你的
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可能手機上的
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手機上的
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你可以直接顯示出來
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你的barcode
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像是
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像這個
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那你也可以
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其實就是放在手機背後
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就是你可能自己做一個barcode之類的
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whatever
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那這個動作
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就是掃條馬
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然後就後來有人
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就是戲稱超商店員
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就是條馬師
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好像不是戲稱
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就是超商店員會自己去
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一夜於自己叫條馬師
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其實我覺得這不是貶義
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就我覺得蠻好笑的
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嗯
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我雖然沒當過超商店員
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但就是
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我有做過類似
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就是要進貨
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或是百貨那種
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然後
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所以我可以理解
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就是在超商工作會需要
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會需要做更多事情
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像是應對客人
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泡咖啡
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有的沒的
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然後上下架
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我那時候做過的工作
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是隻有把商品上架而已
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其實我不需要應對客人
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那
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對回過頭來
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就是
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應該是有人自己會
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也許自己是挑馬仕這樣
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然後我自己對於這個
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這個詞彙的看法是
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我不覺得它是
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不太算是批評
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我覺得是蠻詼諧的
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對
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那條碼是
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總之條碼是就是超商店員
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對
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然後另外是外送室
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外送室就是像
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嗯
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Uber Eats
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或者是Food Panda
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或是Grab
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他們會送那個外送嘛
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然後
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我不知道這個詞是從哪裏出來了
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但也是可能是在某些社羣人體上開始有
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就是我不知道自己是貶義還是別人去
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說這羣人找外送的詞
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但總之就是有這個詞出現
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對
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就是私自背就變了這麼多
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好
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那大家聊完了一下一些我對工作的印象
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像是有十字杯之類的工作
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或者是條馬是外送食
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然後來聊聊我做過哪些工作
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我自己
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大學的時候
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我在圖書館打工過
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那個時候原因蠻好笑
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就是因爲那時候跟我交往的女朋友
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她在圖書館打工
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所以我也想說我去應證看看
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對
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總之就應徵上了
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然後那個租書館是在學校裏面的租書館
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然後
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其實蠻
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蠻輕鬆的
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然後我覺得排班也蠻自由的
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就是你只要在那個月裏面
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把你需要做的時數
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時間的時數
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給消耗完
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就是可能你
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你可能會先跟
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呃
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你的主管
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不太像主管
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就是
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好難解釋
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我覺得就講主管好了
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比較輕鬆的
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就是會跟你的主管說
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你要
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你可能這個月
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要做多少小時
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我記得是這樣子
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然後接下來就是固定去
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在下
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應該說你會先講
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你下個月要做多久
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或是你這個月開始會做多久
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然後
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你就去慢慢
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把你的時間給消耗完這樣子
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那其實如果有
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有沒有消耗完的時候
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就是基本上也都蠻貪心的
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你可以在下個月再把它做完
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我是覺得
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那邊的
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我記得那時候都叫學姐
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因爲那些有些蠻多
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在租書館工作的人
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其實都是原本大學的
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的學姐
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就是同一個大學畢業的
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然後
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那總之就是大家就蠻信任
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我們自己安排
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對我就蠻厲害的
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但總之就是我們那時候
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就是會自己填石塑
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有時候我其實都會偷懶
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就會想說
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那我原本可能排了一些東西
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然後想說
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就
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嗯
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之後再做
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可能我就比較想睡覺或打電動幹嘛
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那總之
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那時候我就在圖書館的地下室上班
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就是會刷那個
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刷那個barcode
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就類似調罵師那個工作
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但我那時候刷的那個barcode是
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我們要進新書
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要去key down
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key進那個圖書館的答案系統
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那總之就是一個蠻
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蠻簡單的工作
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所以就找校內的工作生來做
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就是像我這種
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然後對
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然後是我還有在那個英文部習班
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去當櫃檯吧
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幫忙幫忙擦黑板
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或是處理一些學生的事情
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印頭券啊
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或者是接待家長
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然後跟家長
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討論一下狀況吧
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就可能學生的一些狀況
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或收繳費等等
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可能也都是像
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行政相關的事情
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那時候
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總之就是說做兩份工
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也
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好像大學就蠻無聊
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所以就是有
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去做一些打工
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一方面是
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家裏的環境也
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不算是非常優渥吧
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又還行
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但就是想說自己要
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多做一點
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去處理自己的生活費用
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就畢竟自己
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也會想要買一些東西或幹嘛
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然後其實會
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會去思考說
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不要讓
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不要儘量不要讓你家裏造成
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那總之
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大學的時候
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就是做這兩個工作
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然後其實高中的時候有幫忙
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家裏去就像剛剛說
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那個商品的上下架
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就是有類似
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店員的那種感覺
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對
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所以其實
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我的打工經驗
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算是做的
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蠻多面向
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還有隻有一個
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就是我在網絡上找
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找到要去發傳單
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或是請人
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請人下載APP
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然後我覺得
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那工作蠻爛的
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就是
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就是不知道該怎麼說
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就感覺就是
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真的是花時間賺錢
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這樣說好像也蠻怪的
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但總之就是我對那個工作
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其實蠻
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體驗蠻不好的
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像之前在讀書館的工作
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就會覺得哇
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那那個環境和那個
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我可以在非常
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離我就是學校住的地方
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很近的地方就可以去上班
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這件事情是蠻不錯的
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然後以及在
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補習班
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在那個英文補習班打工
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也還算不錯
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好啊
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然後大學畢業後就去上班
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就是在寫程式
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對
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這好像蠻好講的嘛
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總之工作就是這樣
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就是我
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就是花時間去上班
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然後
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剛開始進入職場的時候
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其實蠻多
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感覺蠻多東西都可以
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其實蠻多東西不知道
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就可能像是
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像上管理啊
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或者是一些
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怎麼把問題問清楚吧
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或是怎麼去描述問題等等的事情
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然後
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以及去把那個職業那個階梯等等
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其實這些問題
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那時候剛畢業的時候都沒有想清楚
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其實都不知道
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不知道要去想這些事情
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那其實知道後
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工作了三四年之後吧
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就是自己的技術也比較好了一點
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然後
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比較有
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比較有
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運去思考一些那個
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工作以外的
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不是工作以外
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就是實際上在做工作這件事情
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寫神室這件事情以外的一些地方
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再來也是因爲考慮到薪資
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就是會想說
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自己的工作的狀況
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還有一些付出
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會希望說自己的薪資
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可以再更成長一點
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所以就會去想說
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是不是有什麼方法
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或者有什麼辦法這樣
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那對於工作
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我自己
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我覺得我自己好像算蠻幸運的
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就是
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我的
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就是總的來說
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我現在在做的工作
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就是
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簡單的來講就是在寫程式
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然後
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其實寫程式這件事情
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對我來說
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是我
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喜歡做的一件事情
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對
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有蠻多人好像都是
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會探索不同的工作後
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纔會發現自己
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喜歡的工作是什麼
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然後
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我覺得
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我自己是因爲在
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可能從高中開始吧
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從大學
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我就有做過了一些
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不同的工作
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就像是前面說
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我去圖書館工作啊
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或者是我去
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英文補習班當
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就是櫃胎
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或是我自己去
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外面發傳單
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不是去外面
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就是我找了去外面發傳單的工作
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請別人下載APP的工作
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就我做了其實蠻多事情
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然後也漸漸的讓我感受到一些
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可能是哪些我想做
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哪些我不想做的
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對吧
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就這樣
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那工作還可以聊什麼
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聊聊上班好了
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上班時間好了
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就是我的上班時間
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我覺得工程師的上班時間
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好像都蠻自由
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就是蠻多
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首先我就會看公司
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然後基本上有些公司
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就可以在家上班
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或者是你可以
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完全的在家遠端工作
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那這個就很看公司的狀況
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然後上班的時間
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就以我現在的這家公司來說
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是有時候其實就是上午
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我會在家上班
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如果我在臺灣的話
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然後可能下午有會議要開
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或者是可能晚上有在臺北
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有一些活動的話
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因爲我是住
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我在臺灣的話是住在新北市
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那我就會選擇可能
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中午出門去公司這樣
511
00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,660
然後下午纔會出現在公司
512
00:17:05,660 --> 00:17:06,200
對
513
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,300
就是上班的時間是可以自己去
514
00:17:08,300 --> 00:17:09,140
schedule
515
00:17:09,140 --> 00:17:10,520
自己去掌控
516
00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,740
那
517
00:17:11,740 --> 00:17:13,440
對啊
518
00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:14,420
就蠻
519
00:17:14,420 --> 00:17:16,260
算蠻自由的吧
520
00:17:16,260 --> 00:17:16,920
跟很多
521
00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,240
可能固定
522
00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,360
九到
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00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:21,740
早上九點到晚上六點
524
00:17:21,740 --> 00:17:24,060
需要坐在辦公室的工作
525
00:17:24,060 --> 00:17:24,620
不太一樣
526
00:17:24,620 --> 00:17:25,080
對
527
00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,320
我自己之前的工作也是
528
00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,320
有
529
00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,340
有必須要這樣的
530
00:17:30,340 --> 00:17:30,680
就是
531
00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,240
不能說早上
532
00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,720
就是早上十點左右
533
00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,360
你就要坐在辦公室
534
00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:37,880
然後可能六點
535
00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,520
纔可以離開這樣
536
00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,920
那其實對我來說
537
00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,540
是不太喜歡的
538
00:17:42,540 --> 00:17:43,260
就是我
539
00:17:43,260 --> 00:17:44,540
我其實很喜歡
540
00:17:44,540 --> 00:17:46,240
事情趕快做一做
541
00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,360
然後就走了
542
00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:50,240
就是我以前在幫家裏
543
00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,280
打工的時候
544
00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,200
就是那個上下家那東西
545
00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,280
就是一天的時候
546
00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,940
就是你就有一段時間
547
00:17:56,940 --> 00:17:58,200
會去做這件事情
548
00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,500
然後其實我就是會
549
00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:00,880
儘量去趕快把它做一做
550
00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,020
因爲做完之後
551
00:18:02,020 --> 00:18:03,560
我就想就想散
552
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:04,820
我就想離開了
553
00:18:04,820 --> 00:18:06,220
我就想下班了
554
00:18:06,220 --> 00:18:07,400
然後其實像我現在
555
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,060
就回到回過頭來說
556
00:18:10,060 --> 00:18:11,280
現在的工作
557
00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,760
工程師的工作
558
00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,700
我也會期望說我儘量是這樣
559
00:18:15,700 --> 00:18:18,220
就是可以有這樣子的條件
560
00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:20,200
就是時間的掌握可以比較
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00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,380
彈心一點
562
00:18:21,380 --> 00:18:24,040
就是雖然工作都很多
563
00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,500
但就是工作總會有輕重緩急
564
00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:30,080
那就是儘量去趕快
565
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,800
就是在時間內把
566
00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,320
重要的事情做一做
567
00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,500
然後
568
00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:36,860
然後
569
00:18:36,860 --> 00:18:40,240
我覺得我自己的工作
570
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,120
遠端工作
571
00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:41,960
其實
572
00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,860
以及還有這些彈性
573
00:18:43,860 --> 00:18:45,800
對我的
574
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,900
算身心靈狀態吧
575
00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:49,600
有加分
576
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,660
我覺得也有一點扣分的不好的地方
577
00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:54,860
首先是通勤的時間
578
00:18:54,860 --> 00:18:57,660
就是會變得非常少
579
00:18:57,660 --> 00:18:59,460
我之前有一份工作是
580
00:18:59,460 --> 00:19:02,580
我到公司是要花一個小時
581
00:19:02,580 --> 00:19:04,420
其實我現在的工作
582
00:19:04,420 --> 00:19:06,740
我要去公司也大概是要花到一個小時
583
00:19:06,740 --> 00:19:08,140
然後
584
00:19:08,140 --> 00:19:10,380
所以這樣算起來
585
00:19:10,380 --> 00:19:13,360
其實我從出發到公司
586
00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:14,560
然後晚上下班
587
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,880
再從公司離開
588
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,820
回到家裏
589
00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:18,660
我一天就會花兩個小時
590
00:19:18,660 --> 00:19:20,920
其實蠻可怕的
591
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,220
對
592
00:19:22,220 --> 00:19:24,320
就是兩個小時
593
00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,500
那不用就是上下班通知的時候
594
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:28,140
其實就是
595
00:19:28,140 --> 00:19:30,280
不會去花到這個兩個小時
596
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,440
就可以去運動啊
597
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,400
或者是自己煮飯
598
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,480
或者是whatever
599
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,880
做自己想做的事情
600
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:38,840
對
601
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,760
就這種把時間拿回來的感覺
602
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,260
我覺得蠻舒服的
603
00:19:42,260 --> 00:19:42,760
蠻好的
604
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,100
不然其實
605
00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:47,420
我覺得這樣子通行久了之後
606
00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:50,080
就是以前的那個生活的習慣
607
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,400
會讓我覺得
608
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,880
我好像是爲了
609
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,860
爲了工作而活着
610
00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:56,400
就覺得蠻痛苦的
611
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:56,600
對
612
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,000
但我覺得
613
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,120
有時候沒有去公司
614
00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,800
就是都在家裏自己上班
615
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,180
其實
616
00:20:05,180 --> 00:20:08,460
會不太有那種上下班的
617
00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:10,140
的界限的感覺
618
00:20:10,140 --> 00:20:11,140
就是至少
619
00:20:11,140 --> 00:20:13,480
我們出門上班
620
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,600
然後到公司
621
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,700
你就會有那種
622
00:20:15,700 --> 00:20:16,700
要OK
623
00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:18,100
要上班的感覺
624
00:20:18,100 --> 00:20:19,700
然後離開辦公室
625
00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:21,700
那這種動作
626
00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:22,040
我覺得
627
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,380
在身體或心靈上
628
00:20:24,380 --> 00:20:26,520
都會讓自己意識到說
629
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,580
現在可以放輕鬆一點
630
00:20:28,580 --> 00:20:29,500
這種感覺
631
00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:32,000
但我一直在家裏工作的時候
632
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,500
有時候就會覺得說
633
00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:35,800
就感覺還在
634
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:36,780
那個
635
00:20:36,780 --> 00:20:38,260
我的身上的
636
00:20:38,460 --> 00:20:40,080
身體裏面的基數吧
637
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,520
可能沒有意識到這件事情
638
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,180
可能我一直坐在電腦前面
639
00:20:45,180 --> 00:20:45,700
他就覺得
640
00:20:45,700 --> 00:20:47,900
我還在工作的感覺
641
00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:49,160
總之會讓我的
642
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,300
心理的狀態
643
00:20:51,300 --> 00:20:52,480
或是身體的感覺
644
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,260
好像還是在上班
645
00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:56,340
的那種模式
646
00:20:56,340 --> 00:20:58,860
所以我後來就是會
647
00:20:58,860 --> 00:21:00,560
這樣去做一些其他事情
648
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,540
或出門運動
649
00:21:01,540 --> 00:21:02,700
對
650
00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:04,040
轉換一下那個
651
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,520
讓自己的
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00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,020
整個時間的那個
653
00:21:08,020 --> 00:21:09,960
時間軸上
654
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,180
有一個跳脫工作的感覺
655
00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:13,400
先到這邊好了
656
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,020
像是剛剛講了
657
00:21:16,020 --> 00:21:19,960
臺灣人有這個三師的一些客觀印象
658
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,660
但現在不太確定
659
00:21:21,660 --> 00:21:23,820
然後還有講了像比較
660
00:21:23,820 --> 00:21:26,460
新興的外送的師跳馬師
661
00:21:26,460 --> 00:21:28,200
但是比較詼諧啊
662
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,700
比較一些耶語的成分
663
00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:32,080
然後又講了一些我自己
664
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,880
曾經打工過
665
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,000
工作過的經驗
666
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,680
我之前在
667
00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:40,120
補習班當過櫃檯
668
00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:44,380
在讀書館掃過條碼
669
00:21:44,380 --> 00:21:46,940
然後工作就一直
670
00:21:46,940 --> 00:21:48,620
開始工作之後
671
00:21:48,620 --> 00:21:49,800
就是當工程師
672
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,680
brandy工程師
673
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:51,920
就是在寫程師
674
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,600
然後後面又再講到了
675
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,080
工作的一些
676
00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:01,220
我自己工作的一些狀態吧
677
00:22:01,220 --> 00:22:03,300
就是工程師
678
00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:04,760
應該說工程師可以
679
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,780
遠端工作或是同情這樣
680
00:22:08,020 --> 00:22:09,620
聽起來怪怪的
681
00:22:09,620 --> 00:22:10,220
應該是說
682
00:22:10,220 --> 00:22:11,460
工程師
683
00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:13,040
有些工程師
684
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,540
有些工作是可以遠端工作
685
00:22:14,540 --> 00:22:16,160
然後就是我分享了一下
686
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,020
我自己對於遠端工作
687
00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:20,840
或是同行的一些想法
688
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,320
嗯
689
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,200
OK
690
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,740
那就是今天的podcast
691
00:22:23,740 --> 00:22:24,480
Bye